Spam As a Service
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Spam As a Service

Now even Reddit comments are filling up with AI spam — and a whole new generation of bots are lined up to take marketers' money. Why your buyers are willing to wait up to five days longer for their purchase. What media buyers are saying about the proposed TikTok sale. And Europe says TikTok's latest promotion is as addictive as cigarettes.


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[00:00:00] It is Tuesday, April 23rd.

[00:00:03] Today, now even Reddit comments are filling up with AI spam and a whole new generation of

[00:00:09] bots are lined up to take your money.

[00:00:12] While your buyers are willing to wait up to five days longer for their purchase, what

[00:00:16] media buyers are saying about the proposed TikTok sale, and Europe says TikTok's

[00:00:21] latest promotion is as addictive as cigarettes.

[00:00:27] I'm Tod Maffin, that's ahead today in Digital Marketing.

[00:00:32] One of the search tricks people use online if they're finding Google results lacking

[00:00:36] is to add the word Reddit to the end of their search.

[00:00:39] This usually finds more relevant content from that community, usually free from bots

[00:00:44] and scammy promotional text.

[00:00:46] Well, the AI tech bros have decided that the best way to capitalize on that is

[00:00:51] to infect Reddit threads with AI-generated marketing messages.

[00:00:57] A service called Reddit advertises itself as the AI that plugs your product on Reddit,

[00:01:05] and which automatically mentions your product in conversations naturally.

[00:01:10] Examples on the site show two different Redditors being controlled by AI, posting plugs for

[00:01:14] a text-to-voice product called any speech, and a bot writing a long comment about

[00:01:20] a debt consolidation program called Debt Freedom Now.

[00:01:24] A video demo shows a dashboard where a user adds the name of their company and URL they

[00:01:29] want to direct users to.

[00:01:31] It then auto-suggests keywords that help the bot know what types of subreddits and tweets

[00:01:34] to look for, and when to respond.

[00:01:37] Moments later, the dashboard shows Reply Guy is already in the responses of the

[00:01:43] comments section of different Reddit posts.

[00:01:47] It's interesting to see this entry in the content wars.

[00:01:50] Reddit has invested a ton of money into catching deceptive bots.

[00:01:54] Even regular users get caught up in the protections.

[00:01:56] Many communities on the site won't let you post without having been a member for X number

[00:02:00] of days or have X amount of karma.

[00:02:03] And if your account gets banned site-wide, it's common belief that your IP address

[00:02:07] and hardware's unique address are also shadow banned, making it hard to do anything

[00:02:13] from your location or device.

[00:02:15] That and communities exist specifically to make fun of spammy accounts like the

[00:02:19] subreddit called this fucking account.

[00:02:23] This AI bot called Reply Guy uses what it calls a pool of high quality Reddit accounts,

[00:02:27] but you can also give it your brand's account to reply from, just in case you'd

[00:02:32] like to know what it feels like to have your brand account banned too.

[00:02:36] This whole black hat industry is called by some parasite SEO, where people try

[00:02:41] to get their brand or content on a domain that Google already trusts.

[00:02:45] None of this is bad, mind you.

[00:02:48] I mean, the only people answering questions on Quora now are people looking

[00:02:51] to promote themselves or their company.

[00:02:53] And if brands are going to gently promote in Reddit comment threads anyway,

[00:02:57] is a service that does this at scale really that bad?

[00:03:02] This is one of the new ethics debates I expect our industry will be having

[00:03:05] in the years ahead.

[00:03:07] A spokesperson for Reddit told 404 Media they consider AI bots to be

[00:03:12] against their rules.

[00:03:14] A transparency report released by Reddit last week said that when

[00:03:17] they take content down, three fourths of those removals are done automatically

[00:03:22] by an AI bot.

[00:03:29] A new report from Logistics Giant Radio reveals a growing consumer readiness

[00:03:33] to support sustainable shipping practices.

[00:03:37] Despite a general decline in sustainability importance among American consumers,

[00:03:42] a bigger portion is now willing to pay extra and endure longer

[00:03:45] waits for eco-friendly delivery options.

[00:03:49] According to the study, 51% of consumers are prepared to spend more

[00:03:53] for sustainable shopping.

[00:03:55] That is a big increase from 15% just in December of last year.

[00:04:02] Plus, 77% of those surveyed said they'd be willing to wait longer

[00:04:05] for their purchases if the shipping methods were environmentally friendly.

[00:04:08] Out of these, 29% said they could wait an extra day and 38% were OK

[00:04:13] with a delay of three to five days.

[00:04:16] But if you're going to try this, Radio says put communications

[00:04:19] like regular updates high up on your list.

[00:04:27] Adweek today published some interviews they've had with senior media

[00:04:29] buyers about what they're telling their clients about the future

[00:04:32] of ads on TikTok.

[00:04:34] TikTok's presence in the US hangs into balance as lawmakers recently

[00:04:38] passed a bill giving TikTok a year to divest from its Chinese ownership

[00:04:42] to avoid a ban.

[00:04:44] The uncertainty has sparked a flurry of shifts among ad buyers,

[00:04:48] but not all think it's a huge deal.

[00:04:50] Darren Del Torrio from W. Promote says, quote,

[00:04:52] the platform is heavily embedded in the culture at this point.

[00:04:55] The move would be extremely unpopular and it's an election year.

[00:05:01] We're helping our clients create a social mix that integrates

[00:05:03] platforms like Snapchat and Reddit, unquote.

[00:05:06] Other buyers told Adweek the issue is more about advertisers not

[00:05:10] having a diversified enough program, quoting Dan Gardner,

[00:05:14] co-founder of Code and Theory, quote, we're not concerned

[00:05:17] with the TikTok ban and advertisers that have a solid digital

[00:05:20] strategy that revolves around how to reach and engage consumers

[00:05:23] beyond a singular platform shouldn't care either.

[00:05:27] Ultimately, if there's one thing we've learned from

[00:05:29] platform or algorithmic changes in the past, it's that if

[00:05:33] you're a business that relies on only one platform and one

[00:05:37] algorithm, then you will be at risk because the landscape

[00:05:40] always changes regardless of the reason, unquote.

[00:05:44] Indeed, that does seem to be the overall theme of the piece.

[00:05:46] Keep running TikTok but have plans set up to jump ship.

[00:05:50] Fred Schenck, the VP of Brand Experience

[00:05:52] at the Marketing Arm said, quote, we are advising clients

[00:05:55] to stick to the game plan while the audience activity

[00:05:58] is high.

[00:05:58] TikTok is still a place where we can reach them

[00:06:01] in a highly engaged mindset.

[00:06:04] This wouldn't necessarily be a replacement for TikTok,

[00:06:06] but be ready to expand that style of short form video content

[00:06:10] to Meta's apps and YouTube shorts, unquote.

[00:06:13] The whole piece is definitely worth a read if you are keen

[00:06:15] to learn how your media buying peers

[00:06:17] are thinking about the whole thing.

[00:06:19] You'll find it at adweek.com.

[00:06:20] Look for the post called,

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[00:06:58] You have one unheard message.

[00:07:01] Hi, I was calling current,

[00:07:04] the influencer marketing platform,

[00:07:06] but I think I just got redirected

[00:07:09] to a bunch of people listening to a podcast.

[00:07:11] Well anyways, I was calling current

[00:07:14] because I was told they could help get my brand set up

[00:07:16] on TikTok shop and even build out

[00:07:19] an affiliate program of content creators

[00:07:22] from the beginning.

[00:07:23] I'm an affiliate program of content creators

[00:07:25] promoting my brand and even have those content creators

[00:07:29] go on live streams and promote my product there.

[00:07:32] Wow, I could really use current.

[00:07:37] I also heard that the brands they work with

[00:07:38] are making millions in sales.

[00:07:41] I guess I'll just go to their website at current.tech.

[00:07:44] Buzzer.

[00:07:46] Speaking of TikTok,

[00:07:47] the European Commission has launched formal proceedings

[00:07:49] against TikTok's lighter version,

[00:07:51] TikTok light over concerns that its rewards program

[00:07:54] could lead to addiction among children.

[00:07:57] This feature debuted in Spain and France,

[00:08:00] entices users to earn points by watching videos

[00:08:03] and liking posts, which can be exchanged

[00:08:06] for Amazon vouchers and TikTok coins.

[00:08:09] Commissioner theory Breton compared the app's addictive

[00:08:12] potential to that of light cigarettes saying,

[00:08:14] quote, we suspect TikTok light could be as toxic

[00:08:17] and addictive as cigarettes light.

[00:08:21] TikTok now has to submit a risk assessment of the app

[00:08:23] by Tuesday after getting an extension

[00:08:25] from missing their deadline last week.

[00:08:27] For its part, a TikTok spokesperson said

[00:08:29] there's a daily limit on video watching tasks

[00:08:31] and the rewards hub shouldn't even be accessible

[00:08:34] by kids under 18, assuming, of course,

[00:08:37] they didn't lie about their birth year,

[00:08:39] which many of course do.

[00:08:42] The scrutiny is part of a broader investigation

[00:08:44] by the EU into TikTok's practices under the new DSA,

[00:08:47] targeting platforms with significant user bases

[00:08:50] to manage their content more closely.

[00:08:55] So yesterday was kind of a special place of hell.

[00:08:58] I own about, I don't know, 20 domains, something like that.

[00:09:02] Seven or eight of them are active.

[00:09:03] Most of them are for hobbies that my wife and I have.

[00:09:05] And then there's the main one, of course, today,

[00:09:07] digital.com, engageq.com, our agency, and a few others.

[00:09:12] And I had them hosted on one of those lifetime deals,

[00:09:17] which was great, actually.

[00:09:19] It was fine.

[00:09:19] Like it had been hosted there.

[00:09:21] I paid 39 bucks for unlimited hosting, unlimited traffic

[00:09:26] like four years ago.

[00:09:27] Now, it was a slow server, as those of you who've been to our

[00:09:30] website can attest, but it worked until it didn't.

[00:09:34] My own website, ToddMaffin.com,

[00:09:36] which I think is still down actually,

[00:09:38] started getting errors.

[00:09:39] The issue, I think, is that the PHP,

[00:09:42] the database of the underlying database architecture,

[00:09:45] this company was not updating it.

[00:09:47] So it was kind of stuck on an older version

[00:09:49] and they stopped applying to support requests.

[00:09:51] Clearly, I had taken up as much time

[00:09:55] as they were willing to invest in my 39 bucks for four years.

[00:09:57] I still think it was a great deal.

[00:09:58] Anyway, so I found another hosting provider

[00:10:01] and went through the whole process of switching things over.

[00:10:04] But my God, that is difficult, hey?

[00:10:07] Like, so I got the domain,

[00:10:08] I got the, they migrated it fine.

[00:10:11] Most of them, there's still a couple

[00:10:12] that are a little wonky.

[00:10:13] And then I forgot about the email

[00:10:16] I've got to like repoint the email,

[00:10:18] MX records to Google,

[00:10:20] oh it was just such a nightmare.

[00:10:21] And there's nothing more terrifying

[00:10:23] than knowing that you've done something technical,

[00:10:28] you've done it wrong.

[00:10:30] And now nobody in your agency is getting their emails.

[00:10:34] Like why do I do these things to myself?

[00:10:37] Why don't I hire someone?

[00:10:38] Anyway, it's all happened last night.

[00:10:40] Luckily, I got it up and running.

[00:10:42] We were only down for a couple of hours.

[00:10:44] And I mean, thank goodness I decided to do it at night

[00:10:47] because if I had decided to do it in the middle of the day,

[00:10:50] that would have been even worse.

[00:10:51] But that is why my hair went a little bit more gray

[00:10:54] last night.

[00:10:56] All right, thanks for listening.

[00:10:57] I'll see you tomorrow.

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